Thursday, July 30, 2009

Tuscawilla Park in Daytona Beach, FL

Smokin' Popes: I put in 18 at Tuscawilla Park in Daytona Beach, Florida this afternoon. After deciding to pass on the courses in Orlando (an hour away; Daytona's 10 minutes), I wandered up. An interesting course. It's in the 90s here with approximately 80% humidity. So oof. I don't know whether I was just bombing shots today or if it's a function of the humidity (possibly humidity makes discs flippier, since there's more air resistance as they fly; also possibly I'm getting a little more snap since my hand and glove is sticky from the humidity?), but I was definitely getting some pop (and no x-step, whatever that is).

However the humidity also soaks your ass, and the rest of you too. Weird playing in this much after getting use to the basically zero humidity in the desert.

This course is flat, and in a nicely manicured park. There is lots of water winding through the park, in pools, and in some ditches. It's all real water, not casual (so penalties apply). As it is the rainy season now in Florida, there's water in pretty much everything, including, as I mentioned, your ass. That, and the piles of palm and other trees, creates much of the difficulty on this course.

I spent about 20 minutes trying to find the first tee, which I eventually did after being hassled by a dude for Jesus. Wha?

So let's start with hole 3, a drive over what I have to imagine is an alternate island green for one of the current holes: you do not want to be in most of this water because I don't know what kind of insane crap is in there. You can get discs back from the edge, but there's naughty moss and lizards everywhere, and word is that alligators could be around, so I'd recommend just not getting it in the water. So, hole 3, as promised:


Not too hard. About a 300' shot, and lots of trees to hit, but as long as you get it over the island green you should be able to par. I have a putt for birdie and do not make it.

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With the water comes the wildlife that wanders around the park. I don't know what kind of bird this is, but it was a little aggressive. Stork?


There are also about 20 homeless dudes sleeping on benches and so on, none in the fairways. None offered to caddy.

There are several very good holes on this course. Let's start with the first, being a signature hole, number 7. Note the awesome hole maps on every tee (both A and B tees have rocks with maps on them: bonus). There are A tees (longer and harder) and B tees. I played the A tees; I'll probably go back to play the Bs next week. There are at least three pin positions on each hole. Which position it's in is designated by the little white buttons on the rock (you can see the bottom half of one of them here). This hole is seriously bitchy:


The pin's in the 3 position, at 329 feet. There's really no way to play this hole safe besides just chipping it 50 feet ahead. You could try to play to the little peninsula on the right, or way to the left, but that's risky in itself:


It's a solid 315 to carry the water, I'd say, especially since the water's on the left, so this would play better for a lefty or a forehand if you got the cojones and the shot. You do not want to miss left. Here's a shot of the green from the left side of the pond:


I kill a drive. Overshoot it by about 30 feet and end up here:


Somewhat sad day. Gettable. I have a reasonable putt, but I miss the reasonable putt off the metal on the top and take a bogey. Too bad. C'est disc.

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How about a shot of a cool palm?


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or a random knife I find on a bench around hole 14:


I think about taking said knife but do not. It looks so clean. And who knows why it's on the paper. I do not ask. I do not tell. I blog it and move on.

Hole 11 is a tough little one. It's 372' in its current position, but you really have no shot (besides some kind of roller because the shrubbery on the right is big and tall and looks like it's waiting for you to try to throw a turnover shot to cut it close):


I throw an easy turnover about 280', just playing it safe. You really have to play it high and left, and there's probably a shot to be had besides a roller that could give you a putt, but I don't see it (no real forehand is going to hold) but you can't put it in the huge woods over there:


It turns out to be pretty awesome actually, leaving me a 70 foot upshot which I chump because I am a chump. Almost hit a 40' putt but no such luck. I am putting a little too high for the first 2/3 of the course. Maybe it's the humidity. At least it's consistent.

Hole 12 is a pretty one, a nice change from many of the front nine. It's probably 330' or so, and there's a nice opening which you cannot miss if you want any shot at par:


Throw it highish and turnoverry. This course definitely punishes bad shot selection or bad execution, which is what you want. It could probably have a little more variety than it has, but with an openish park, there's only so much you can do. (Ask Sean about his Muncie course--it's very good considering the landscape, but when you play a Kaposia or something, or an Elver, with big elevation and tech craziness, it's just fuckin' better.) Either way this is a good hole. It makes it clear what you should do, and anything else fucks you. Anyhow, here's a shot from about 100' out, just where it clears:


This course--and Florida on the whole--is lush as hell. Palms everywhere, and saw palmettos, and cockroaches of course, armadillos, ospreys. Very cool to play here. The humidity is like Alabama but Alabama sucks a lot worse than Florida, I am finding.

13 is a monster. One of the two signature holes on the course (7 is the other one, in my opinion):


Note that the 4th pin position isn't even on the fucking map. It's a bomb hole, definitely, easily 400 to get to the trees and a second shot:



And you can absolutely hit that white veranda structure. I do not, which is good. I kill a drive, maybe close to 370' or so. It leaves me a reasonable (though not easy) second shot:


There's a route. A nice little forehand route, but I chump it. Jesus. Leaving me an assy shot for par. I hit another tree. Frack. Eventually you get up to the basket, which is kind of awesomely elevated on a stump:


which is a nice touch. I chart a 5 on this one. Damn it. Should have totally parred it. But whatevs. 13, I forget what 13 is. 14 is pretty awesome though. The drive's about like a bunch of these, albeit a bomb, except a fucking island green, which is pretty much my favorite kind of green. They're so bitchy. And this one isn't even flat:


I throw a pretty good shot which lands on the green, but then it rolls off. Ass. I take a 4. Luckily I turn on the birdie for the next two holes (15 is a birdie hole, definitely, and I finally chart a birdie). Hole 16 is a bomb, 390 or so. I launch one, and put in a 40-footer for birdie. Sweet. Back to +5.

Generally this course uses its water really well. It's almost always in play. Like on 17, in which the drive is by no means an obvious shot:


and here's the shot of the green:


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I end up bogeying 18 (which shouldn't have been bogeyed), which puts me back at +6, which is a little disappointing. It should be reasonable to play this course at par if you avoid disaster and just hit putts to get some of the easier birdies (which I did not for the most part).

Overall, I'd say 3.0/4.0. Pretty good. Not quite awesome since about half the holes are fairly similar to each other. Definitely worth the play. I'll post a review this evening probably on dgcoursereview.com which is increasingly an entertaining site for me. There's lots of examples of people saying they traveled 1200 miles to get here. WTF? Really? It's definitely different than a lot of courses I've played, but not worth that kind of gas money.

6 comments:

BlogSloth said...

Fucking great photos.

S

Ander said...

The fact that they CUT THE TEE SIGNS OUT OF ACTUAL ROCK tells you something about the course, also. Plus I think the light in Florida is pretty awesome, when it makes it through the canopy.

LBB said...

Great post. I was vacationing in Florida a couple of months before our Madison tournament. I'm glad I didn't play this course, though. I wouldn't have had any discs left for Madison.

Ehling said...

Nice post, Ander--a swamp course just seems dangerous. Loved all the details, too: maps, birds, the basket on a stump....

BTW, Eric and I hit Inver Grove today (they've added pro tees now, which we played) and it killed us.

Very excited about trying out this course in a few weeks, and we'll post a blog on that trip for sure.

LBB said...

That Blue Ribbon Pines course looks awesome. They played it in the Minnesota Majestic tournament this year, but no video footage. Hole 4 does look mean, but take a look at hole 19. Hit Zoom In. Then Show Target. The basket seems to be in some freakin' hole in the ground.

Ander said...

Sweet. Blue Ribbon looks a lot like the course in Eau Claire that Leo and I played. It's a real bitch. I'd love to play these new courses next time I get up there. Definitely will next spring...